The Unorthodox Bais Din Givas Hamorah

The unorthodox Bais Din Givas Hamorah decided that children of people who are not submitting to their authority should not be circumcised.

This Bais Din is the most corrupt Bais Din in New York State.

Other Dayonim already made a Psak that this bais din no one has to respond to and compared this bais din to fools.

They don't know Shulchan Aruch.

Who authorized your beth din? Do your dayyanim have semikha?

Nobody “authorized” us and our dayyanim do not have semikha (nor do any dayyanim on other contemporary batei dinim, since semikha has now been discontinued). According to Jewish law, three laymen (sheloshah hedyototh) are authorized to form a beth din for the purpose of resolving dinei mamonoth (monetary disputes) and the accused is required to appear before such a court and abide by its decision.

What happens if the people wish to use a different bais din?

Okay, I am required halakhically to appear before beth din. But who said I have to go to your beth din? I'd like to go to a different beth din or choose my own dayyanim!

That is definitely your prerogative. However, we do not recognize the halakhic validity of any beth din who accepts compensation for judging, in flagrant violation of the mishnaic injunction “whoever takes recompnse for judging, his judgement is void”. In the interest of having the case heard promptly by the beth din of your choice, we need to receive a clear statement from the three dayyanim you have chosen, specifying the time and place where you will appear before them, so that we can notify the plaintiff where and when to appear before the beth din of your choice. If the beth din you chose receives compensation or postpones the hearing excessively we will not deem it a valid alternative to our beth din, since this does not provide a halakhically impartial, prompt and effective venue to have a disupte heard and resolved according to Torah rules.

Read more here.

Many of the victims below did ask to go to a different bais din.  The people listed below are VICTIMS of an unorthodox bais din.  They may be guilty of other halocha, but even mayoral candidate Joe Lhota deserves a bris.

Givas Hamorah is guilty of spreading Motzie Shem Ra on other Jews.  I am placing an eternal ban on all the unorthodox rabbis sitting on this bais din.  No one shall eat from their meat, wine or food.  This holy nation shall remain at least four amos away from these bullies.  They shall not be buried in our holy cemeteries.

Here are the list of people that were damaged by this criminal organization.  I encourage someone from this list to contact each other and file a class action legal claim for defamation of character and other damages against this Bais Din.

Date of Issue	First Name of Mesarev	Last Name of Mesarev	Address of Mesarev	City/ State	Business Name of Mesarev	Plaintiff	Notes
1/16/2013	Yirachmeil	Andrusier	407 Crown St.	brooklyn NY		Gordon
6/2013	rachel	antebi	1860 ocn pkwy 3a	brooklyn NY		david	ohr halimud
11/21/2012	Isaac	Appel	263 Classon Ave.	brooklyn NY		Lictenstein
5/1/2013	ozer	babad	784- e 3rd	brooklyn NY		sapiro
8/7/2013	chaim yehoshea	ben-yakir	1451-45	brooklyn NY		moshel
12/19/2012	Shye	Berger	112 Park Ln.	Monsey NY		Friedman
1/30/2013	Shia Avrohom	Berkowitz	616b South 8th #10	brooklyn NY		Knoffler
5/5/2013	moshe chaim	Berkowitz	82 forest rd.	Monroe NY		kahan	satmar gemach
7/10/2013	chaim	blau	5118-14 th ave	brooklyn NY		bernstein
8/21/2013	peretz	blaustein	86 rutledge	brooklyn NY		kahan/jakobawitz/philip	satmar gemach
12/26/2012	Chaim Mordechai	Braun	263 Classon Ave. 5-A	brooklyn NY		Ekstein
6/3/2013	shmuel	bravmann	3623 ave l	brooklyn NY	stivrite	Deutch
7/30/2013	joel	breif	7 Lizensk Blvd. #303	Monroe NY		Kahan &Jaco.	satmar gemach
11/21/2012	David	Brill	106 South 8th St.	brooklyn NY	Tile Décor	Lictenstein
2/20/2013	Efraim	Brill	315 Division ave	brooklyn NY		Sabel
2/20/2013	Tsirel	Brill	315 Division Ave	brooklyn NY		Sabel
1/23/2013	Berry	Chaimowitz	817 E 18	brooklyn NY		Sofer
6/2013	yakov	deutch	2049-53	brooklyn NY		david	ohr halimud
6/2013	baila	deutch	2049-53	brooklyn NY		david	ohr halimud
11/28/2012	Yisroel Moshe	Donn	1644-55th st.	brooklyn NY		Jeremias
4/8/2013	abraham	ehrenfeld	1144-59	brooklyn NY		stark
4/8/2013	fiega	ehrenfeld	1144-59	brooklyn NY		stark
3/6/2013	yisroel	eisenberg	4404-14 th ave	brooklyn NY	Skvere	markus/rosenberg
9/3/2013	benjamin	emunah	29 grandview	Monsey NY		sprei
11/21/2012	Joseph	Farkas	611 Wythe Ave.	brooklyn NY	Petite Prices	Rosenbaum
12/26/2012	David	Farkas	2117-61st st.	brooklyn NY		Klein
5/29/2013	chaya	feldman	1634-40 th st.	brooklyn NY		david	ohr halimud
9/11/2013	moshe	feuchtwanger	478 e 9 #2f			stroh
7/17/2013	sarah	fish	5311-12 th ave.	brooklyn NY	sheves achim	sofer
11/7/2012	Ellen M.	Fisher	50 Hamlin Rd.	Edison NJ	ESQ	Rosenberg
3/13/2013	Eliezer(Eliott)	Frankel	1655-55 th St	brooklyn NY	HOSU Inc.	Kohn
8/28/2013	mayer	frankel			bais fruma munkaks	gestetner(hirshfeld)
9/11/2013	esther	freidman	193 wsmg st west	brooklyn NY		goldstien
4/22/2010	sholom	fried	26 meron #201	Monroe NY		diamond
12/26/2012	Nuchem Shimshon	Friedlander	263 Classon Ave. 4-F	brooklyn NY		Ekstein
1/23/2013	Yakov	Friedman	21 Satmar Dr.	Monroe NY		Fisher
1/9/2013	Moses	Gluck	159 Rutledge St.	brooklyn NY		Retek
3/20/2013	mendel mayer	gluck	270 keap st.	brooklyn NY		weider
12/5/2012	Yechiel Mechel	Greenfeld	1462 48th St	Brooklyn NY	A Thru Z DMV	Herzog
5/29/2013	moshe	gross	1722-45 st	brooklyn NY		goldstien
1/30/2013	William (zev)	Haas	222 Brook Ave	Passaic NJ		Haas
4/14/2013	Mordechai	halberstam	258 penn	brooklyn NY		sabel
3/6/2013	solomon	harel	1540 E 33	brooklyn NY		visel
5/29/2013	shmuel	hecht	1124 E 2	brooklyn NY		Deutch
11/28/2012	Mirit	Hershkop	535 Brooklyn Ave.	brooklyn NY		Danziger
9/3/2013	sholom	hollander	135 s 8 st	brooklyn NY	cake	strulowits
3/6/2013	mordechai	holzler	4404-14 th ave	brooklyn NY	Skvere	markus/rosenberg
6/2013	hershel	jakobiwitz	140 s 8 #2	brooklyn NY		Kahan	Satmar Gemach
4/22/2010	moshe	jakobiwitz	16 fillmore #201	Monroe NY	Admin of Vayoel moshe	diamond
11/21/2012	Usher	Jalas	5204-19th Ave.	brooklyn NY	Save Rite	Rosenbaum
10/31/2012	Yitschok	Kahan	69 South Parker Dr.	Monsey NY	Kahan jewelry	Nussen
7/17/2013	levi issac	katz	5 rose park	Lakewood NJ		ehrlich
9/3/2013	Mordechai	katz	1959- e 24	brooklyn NY		lefkowitz
2/20/2013	Eli	Kleinman	3427 Bedford Ave.	brooklyn NY		Kohen
11/21/2012	Yisroel M.	Kohn	218 Rutledge St.	brooklyn NY		Weider
5/29/2013	solomon	kolman	146 s 9 st.	brooklyn NY		teitelbaum
9/11/2013	michael	kramer	50 division #2d	brooklyn NY		lax
8/21/2013	moshe	kranczer	144-27 70 RD	queens ny		bandman
9/11/2013	David	krauss	1105 e 3rd	brooklyn NY		blaustien
5/5/2013	yoel	landau	41 throop ave 1e	brooklyn NY		berkowitz
6/2013	rapheal	landau	256 hooper	brooklyn NY		greenbaum
3/6/2013	asher	langsam	1115 E 21	brooklyn NY		meirowitz
1/23/2013	Avrum	Laniado	1582 E 17 th st.	brooklyn NY		Oberlander
7/17/2013	allen	lebowitz	1490 ocn pkwy	brooklyn NY		freidman
8/14/2012	don yoel	levy	1347 carrol	brooklyn NY		liebrow
11/7/2012	Lazer	Lichtenstein	922 East 13th st.	brooklyn NY		Lichtenstein
2/6/2013	Josh	Malachi	5702 New Utrecht Ave.	brooklyn NY	j.m. furniture	Weill
9/11/2013	yisroel	mantel	100 benett ave.	#2f		lebowitz
9/3/2013	eluzer	mayer		brooklyn NY	the right place mens clothing	hoffman
3/6/2013	aron	meisels	1650-44th st	brooklyn NY		kraus
3/6/2013	yudel	melber	4404-14 th ave	brooklyn NY	Skvere	markus/rosenberg
6/2013	sarah	milworm	4227-17 av	brooklyn NY		david	ohr halimud
6/2013	yitschok	milworm	4227-17 av	brooklyn NY		david	ohr halimud
8/21/2013	moshe	mizrachi	57 franklin	brooklyn NY		retek
11/21/2012	Roselyn	Mochon	1752 East 5th st.	brooklyn NY		Mochon
6/2013	yudah leib	moskowitz	256 hooper	brooklyn NY		greenbaum
4/8/2013	Idy	mosses	1 locust hollow dr.	Monsey NY	euro design	krauss
5/27/2013	yakov	mutzen	10 throp ave.	Monroe NY		steinmetz
2/20/2013	Avrohom Nissan	Neiman	135 Hooper	brooklyn NY		Sabel
5/29/2013	malky	nelkenbaum	1083 E 36	brooklyn NY		nelkenbaum
8/28/2013	yidel	neuman	161 horton dr.	Monsey NY		shlefrig
11/14/2012	Leah	Neuschloss	1133-50th st.	brooklyn NY	The Lingerie Shop	Landau
2/20/2013	Pinchas Josef	Neustadt	203 Ross St.	brooklyn NY		Kahana	Kahan Family Trust
12/19/2012	Shimon Baruch	Phillip	541 Wythe Ave. #9E	brooklyn NY		Schwartz/Phillip
8/21/2013	shlomo	pinkosowitz	154 hooper st	brooklyn NY		strobel
12/19/2012	Elya	Poplonash	33 Schunnemunk Rd. 201	Monroe NY	D & W Furniture Inc.	Lichtenstein
12/26/2012	Yitzchak Yida	Porges	263 Classon Ave. 3-E	brooklyn NY		Ekstein
6/2013	hemdah	rahami	302 johnson ln	w hpstd NY		yomtobian
12/19/2012	Rachel	Reichman	1463-58th st.	brooklyn NY		Kenner
5/27/2013	malka	Reichman	1013 e 12	brooklyn NY		sovel
4/8/2013	yitschok	reissman	13 zabriskie ter.	brooklyn NY		paneth
2/20/2013	Hershel	Reisz	10-75 Bay 32nd #6	Bayswater NY		Glauber
7/17/2013	eric	reuben	144-15 78th rd.	flushing ny		freidman
3/6/2013	yitschok	rosenberg	106 ross st	brooklyn NY		bondo
7/10/2013	yosef	rosenberg	4907 11 th ave	brooklyn NY	plumbing	shorr
8/7/2013	hindy	rosenberg	1169 E 9 th	brooklyn NY	Lily pond nursing home	weiss
5/29/2013	mayer	rosenwater	5 Fillmore ct. #201	Monroe NY		Goldfarb
11/7/2012	Sholom	Rubashkin	580 Crown st.	brooklyn NY		Rosenberg
10/31/2012	Isaac	Scheiner	22 Mariner Way	Monsey NY	ESQ	Fromowitz
1/9/2013	Martin	Schlesinger	677 Bedford Ave.	brooklyn NY		Rubin
5/29/2013	sholom	schuchat	235 E broadway	ny ny		nelkenbaum
1/16/2013	Chaim Hersh	Schwartz	76 South 8th St.#3R	brooklyn NY	Ichud Hatalmidim D'Satmar	Schwartz/Okko
9/3/2013	abraham	Schwartz	1346-40 street	brooklyn NY		sofer
1/9/2013	Yaakov	Schwed	7 Challenger Ct	Monsey NY		Tepfer
3/6/2013	yehoshuah	sheiner	603 E Pkwy	brooklyn NY		spitz
5/29/2013	freeda	shreiber	222 14 th st.	lakewood NJ		silberberg
5/29/2013	tsiporah	shreiber	222 14 th st.	lakewood NJ		silberberg
5/29/2013	dov	shreiber	222 14 th st.	lakewood NJ		silberberg
6/3/2013	mendel	shwimmer	9 hayes st. #201	Monroe NY		strulowits
3/20/2013	yidel	silber	179 penn st.	brooklyn NY	miron produce	stark
2/20/2013	Zahavah	Sperber	450 Kent Ave. #8g	brooklyn NY		Sperber
11/28/2012	Safra (Moshe)	Spilman	214 Hewes st.	brooklyn NY		Simon
8/21/2013	Yaakov	spitzer	1423-49 th st	brooklyn NY		weinberger
4/8/2013	binyomin	stolzberg	1835-58 th ave.	brooklyn NY		sabel
5/29/2013	nathan	strauss	379 s 5th #4r	brooklyn NY	Strauss flowers	landau
4/8/2013	simon	taub	4823A 14 th ave.	brooklyn NY		bornstein
4/14/2013	Yaakov	teitelbaum	141 Heyward	brooklyn NY		sabel
4/14/2013	Yermiyah	teitelbaum	78 wilson	brooklyn NY		sabel
11/21/2012	Chaim (Erwin)	Weingarten	613 Hope Chapel Rd.	Lakewood NJ	Funtime Creations	Buxbaum
12/26/2012	Mordechai	Weinstock	263 Classon Ave. 3-B	brooklyn NY		Ekstein
6/2013	dini	weisenfeld	1475-54	brooklyn NY		david	ohr halimud
12/19/2012	David	Weiss	25 Israel Zupnik Dr. 202	Monroe NY	D & W Furniture Inc.	Lichtenstein
6/2013	ari	weiss	453 FDR #c 204	NY NY		david	ohr halimud
6/2013	tova	weiss	453 FDR #c 204	NY NY		david	ohr halimud
2/20/2013	Moshe Yosef	Werthheimer	461 Flushing Ave.	brooklyn NY		Jakobawitz
5/29/2013	joel	wertzberger	1166-59 th st	brooklyn NY		pinkus
7/24/2013	yakov	wertzberger	37 calvert dr.	brooklyn NY		itskowitz
6/2013	feish	wetsberger	138 ross	brooklyn NY		lefkowitz
7/10/2013	michael	wilhelm	567 flushing ave.	brooklyn NY		Lichtenstein
5/29/2013	reuven	wolf	1619-51 st.	brooklyn NY		goldstien
7/17/2013	chaim	yankowitz	197 hooper #3	brooklyn NY		grad
6/2013	miriam	zeidah	4211 ft hmltn	brooklyn NY		etias
6/2013	bentzion	zeidah	4211 ft hmltn	brooklyn NY		etias
12/19/2012	Yehezkel	Zion	999 East 5th st.	brooklyn NY		Gelbstein
10/14/2012	Zev	Zylberberg	1234 E10th St	brooklyn NY		Zylberberg
10/14/2012	Leah	Zylberberg	1234 E10th St	brooklyn NY		Zylberberg

Unorthodox Moshe Tendler Denies the Torah

Unorthodox Moshe Tendler who arranged a kidnapping of a fictitious husband together with a lesbian supporter claimed that lashes required by the Torah is unfortunate.

One who denies a portion of the Torah is no different from the Sedokim. 

Facts are on the ground.  Everything the Abeshter wants is Emes, holy and righteous.  This includes lashes.

Pro-lesbian Unorthodox "Rabbi" Arressted for Attempted Kidnapping!

The New York Post writes about an Unorthodox and homosexual supporter Martin Wolmark attempting to kidnap a man who refused to give his wife a divorce.

The Post forgot to mention that this sicko also donated $4000 to a lesbian woman, Sherri Eisenpress, when she ran for family court judge. 

Dov Hikind -- Winner or Loser?

Dov Hikind had his own calcualtions when he went against the rabbis and endorsed Bill Thompson for mayor.

Part of his calculations are correct.  Thompson is better than Deblassio.

Should Thompson force a run-off, I would endorse Thompson. 

However, it looks like there will be no run-off, which makes Dov Hikind the loser.

Still, Hikind won by endorsing Ken Thompson for DA. 

This blog will call it a draw.

Why It's Politically Smart To Vote For Erick Salgado

Why It's Politically Smart To Vote For Erick Salgado by Robert Adler

"Respected" members of our communities have impressed upon us the importance of maintaining a relationship with elected officials.  From the perspective of the administrator of a charity organization or its supporters, a stable relationship with the political establishment can be the key to successful advocacy.  However, from a community perspective, a philosophy of electing candidates based upon maintaining the relationships with our community spokesman is selling our community needs for pennies on the dollar.

The sad fact that most Jews don’t realize is that while a close personal relationship between askanim and politicians are often useful in securing “earmark” grants (otherwise known as “pork” to the secular world) for a few institutions.  On the most important issues of our time the rest of the community doesn’t benefit from the “close relationship” at all.  In fact, the continued support from askanim gives these politicians a sense of entitlement and being insulated and protected in their continued opposition to things that really would help yeshiva families, like enacting tax credits for tuition dollars (which do not violated the Blaine Amendment prohibiting government money to support private schools).

If we simply vote for a politician because he’s going to win anyway, then he’s not going to listen us, because he knows we’re going to vote for him anyway.  Why should a politician (who's main goal is to get reelected and/or advance to a higher office) make any sacrifices or risk crossing powerful anti-Torah social movements or unions, if he knows we’re going to vote for him simply because “he’s going to win anyway, or is slightly less evil than his opponent?”. 

The lifeblood of a vibrant democracy depends upon the fact that the elected officials are held accountable to the public for re-election.  A politician who does not fear that he will be voted of office by his constituents will feel virtually no responsibility to respond to their needs and desires.  

Until now, our adversaries have demonstrated far more commitment to holding their elected officials accountable for supporting their ideologies that are counter to ours.  Our adversaries have demonstrated time and time again that they are willing to vote a politician out of office if he doesn’t support their agenda.  As a result, when an elected official for our communities is put under pressure to bow to their  anti-Torah measures, it takes virtually no time for him to weigh the threat of punishment from our adversaries against the promise of support that he’s received from our communities to choose the bad measure.  

The Jewish community has shown an ability to rise to the occasion to rally and prostest when things become urgent concerns (like Eretz Yisroel, or when Bloomberg wanted to get rid of the child care vouchers).  But the most important time to act should not be when the evil decrees are proposed.  We need to make our voices heard before then, at election time, to make sure our elected representatives know we mean business. A protest can only have value if the elected officials know that we are prepared to carry through on election day.

Now is the time to make our voices heard.  It’s not really Thompson, Quinn or DeBlasio that needs to hear our voices.  Whichever one who wins is not going to come back to ask our opinion once they’ve won office.  Mayor Bloomberg held a meeting with Rabbonim and askonim regarding metzizah b’peh when he was running for office.  But he had no problem reverseing course when he no longer needed something from us, he promised us the vouchers before his election and revoked them after he got our votes and was reelected.

The main act of speech is directed for the future candidates.  Elections happen every year.   Overreliance on the philosophy of choosing the “lesser of two evils” based on who is likely to win has led us to the situation where the lesser evil keeps getting more evil every election cycle.

Remember 20 years ago Christine Quinn wouldn't have even been able to run for mayor. 

Every single one of the candidates except Erick Salgado has demonstrated that they lack the fortitude to stand against the political wind and defend our interests – our values, our pocketbooks and our safety – while the political trend is to do the opposite.